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Past Air, Inc. (NASDAQ:XAIR) Q3 2023 Earnings Convention Name February 9, 2023 4:30 PM ET
Edward Barger – Head, Investor Relations
Steve Lisi – Chairman and CEO
Duncan Fatkin – Chief Industrial Officer
Douglas Larson – Chief Monetary Officer
Convention Name Contributors
Matt Kaplan – Ladenburg Thalmann
Greg Fraser – Truist Securities
Yale Jen – Laidlaw & Firm
Suraj Kalia – Oppenheimer & Firm
Good afternoon. And welcome everybody to the Past Air Monetary Outcomes Name for the Third Fiscal Quarter ended December 31, 2022. Presently, members are in a listen-only mode. A matter-and-answer session will comply with the formal presentation.
And now, I wish to flip the convention over to Edward Barger, Head of Investor Relations at Past Air. Please go forward.
Thanks, Operator. Good afternoon, everybody, and thanks for becoming a member of us. Right this moment, after market shut, we issued a press launch saying the third quarter of fiscal yr 2023 operational highlights and monetary outcomes. A replica of this press launch might be discovered on our web site underneath the Information and Occasions part.
Earlier than we start, I wish to remind everybody that we are going to be making feedback and varied remarks about future expectations, plans and prospects, which represent forward-looking statements for functions of the Protected Harbor provisions underneath the Non-public Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Past Air cautions that these forward-looking statements are topic to dangers and uncertainties that would trigger precise outcomes to vary materially from these indicated. We encourage everybody to overview the corporate’s filings with the Securities and Change Fee together with, with out limitation, the corporate’s most up-to-date Type 10-Ok and Type 10-Q, which identifies particular elements which will trigger precise outcomes or occasions to vary materially from these described within the forward-looking statements.
Moreover, this convention name is being recorded and shall be obtainable for audio rebroadcast on our web site, www.beyondair.web.
Moreover, the content material of this convention name accommodates time-sensitive data that’s correct solely as of the date of the stay broadcast, February 9, 2023. Past Air undertakes no obligation to revise or replace any statements to mirror occasions or circumstances after the date of this name.
Becoming a member of me on at present’s name are Steve Lisi, Chairman and Chief Government Officer; Duncan Fatkin, Chief Industrial Officer; and Douglas Larson, Chief Monetary Officer.
And with that, I’ll flip the decision over to Steve Lisi. Steve?
Thanks, Ed, and good afternoon to everybody becoming a member of us. Right this moment, I shall be offering an replace throughout our portfolio, together with Past Most cancers. This shall be adopted by an outline of our monetary outcomes for the quarter by our Chief Monetary Officer, Doug Larson, after which as regular, we are going to open the decision up for questions. Earlier than discussing our pipeline of financials, I wish to flip it over to our Chief Industrial Officer, Duncan Fatkin, for an replace on the LungFit PH industrial launch. Duncan?
Thanks, Steve, and good afternoon to our buyers. Over the last quarter, we now have continued to make large progress with the preliminary section of our industrial launch of LungFit PH. As a reminder, our go-to-market technique is a multiphase industrial strategy. The preliminary section represents a measured launch of LungFit PH to a choose group of hospitals which have Stage 3 or Stage 4 NICUs and workers skilled with inhaled nitric oxide.
I’m more than happy to report that our workforce has accomplished evaluations of LungFit PH at a wide range of totally different hospitals consistent with our technique to achieve suggestions on our logistics, customer support, and naturally, the scientific efficiency of the machine.
The suggestions has been consistent with our expectations and we now have moved into the contracting section with numerous hospitals on account of their expertise and consciousness of our expertise. As well as, our workforce has demonstrated the LungFit PH system in individual at over 150 hospitals and at state and nationwide conferences in our goal areas, an amazing achievement given continued restrictions in hospitals on account of the triple risk of COVID, RSV and flu through the winter interval to date.
As anticipated, respiratory therapists and neonatologists are extremely motivated to eradicate cylinders and are impressed with how easy and simple the LungFit PH system is to make use of. Hospital directors are reacting very positively to the versatile and clear enterprise fashions offered, and we imagine, in some instances, they are going to revisit a number of the restrictions positioned on the usage of nitric oxide as a consequence of value and logistical challenges.
We’ve got been in a position to check our logistics infrastructure, in addition to our scientific and gross sales operations help by way of our 24×7 LungFlex service. Based mostly on the suggestions obtained within the first seven months since launch, we’re planning to maneuver into an accelerated section of promotion within the spring.
We are going to use the expertise from this primary section of our launch to refine our enterprise mannequin, geographical focus and scientific coaching to ensure that we optimize the following section of our launch.
As I’ve beforehand talked about, through the second section, we shall be increasing our industrial workforce, each area gross sales and scientific specialists and constructing a community of reference hospitals and key opinion leaders.
We’re very excited in regards to the progress made during the last quarter and stay up for constructing a coalition of hospitals, supporting this wonderful new expertise and accelerating consciousness of a brand new means of delivering nitric oxide throughout the U.S. and Past.
With that, I’ll flip the decision again to Steve for the pipeline overview. Steve?
Thanks, Duncan. I’ll begin with LungFit PH, the place we now have confronted regulatory delays. Our quest for CE Mark goes effectively, however we should postpone our anticipated approval till the primary half of our fiscal yr 2024.
Within the U.S., we now have confronted comparable problems with delays past our management, and thus, we now have not but submitted our PMA complement for cardiac label growth, however count on to take action earlier than the tip of the primary half of this calendar yr. We stay assured in attaining each of those targets.
With respect to our VCAP program, we proceed to work intently with the FDA to agree upon the protocol for our examine, which we intend to start out within the fourth quarter of calendar yr 2023. We started this dialogue over the summer time and we imagine that FDA ought to permit this examine to be performed given our efficacy and security profile in an grownup pneumonia examine, three bronchiolitis research, two NTM research, together with a number of different research. These research have resulted in extra of 5,000 NO administrations at 150 components per million to 250 components per million nitric oxide in over 170 sufferers.
To not point out the Squeaky Clear security information in animals that we now have talked about many occasions up to now. As a reminder, this proposed examine is extraordinarily comparable in design to what we reported from our Israeli viral pneumonia examine. We count on to deal with sufferers hospitalized with pneumonia who check virus optimistic for any virus, together with any and all variants of SARS-CoV-2.
We’ve got seen no SAEs associated to 150 components per million to 160 components per million NO in three bronchiolitis research and one grownup pneumonia examine. Plus, we filed the infants long-term, some out greater than 5 years and noticed no long-term results from the acute NO therapy. Our research and long-term information mirror our persevering with capacity to handle considerations of methemoglobinemia and nitrogen dioxide publicity related to excessive focus no therapy. We’re assured that we will construct on these outcomes.
Transferring to 250 components per million NO, which was delivered in our examine a number of occasions per day at dwelling by sufferers with no medical skilled current for greater than 11 weeks. You possibly can see these information as they had been offered on the 2022 Chest Annual Assembly by visiting our web site. Only a reminder, no methemoglobinemia and no nitrogen dioxide points had been reported.
We imagine that these information help shifting ahead with a pivotal examine for NTM sufferers and we are going to transfer as quick as potential. Presently, we don’t see the examine starting till the second half of our fiscal yr 2025. We stay up for working with FDA to satisfy or shorten this time line.
Our pilot examine in sufferers with underlying COPD won’t be performed this coming winter. We are going to look to start to start out within the fourth quarter of calendar 2024. LungFit PH and VCAP are our rapid priorities and we are going to proceed to work with FDA in addressing the numerous purposes of no.
Transferring on to Past Most cancers. Progress during the last 15 months because the cash raised has been very robust. The Section 1a human scientific examine is ongoing with our present perception that we are going to be releasing topline information later this calendar yr. Our first publication is out with one other anticipated later this yr. Our preclinical workforce is sort of energetic with information anticipated at a number of medical conferences this yr and we now have already proven a doubling of survival in animals after we added our UNO remedy to anti-PD-1 remedy in comparison with anti-PD-1 alone.
The workforce has additionally been expanded with the current hiring of Gavin Choy as COO and the additions of Dr. Fred Dirbas and Dr. Mark Pegram, each world famend oncologists at Stanford to our Past Most cancers SAB. As well as, the primary patent for our expertise was issued. Please go to beyondcanter.com for element on all of those accomplishments and keep tuned for extra later this yr.
I’ll now flip the decision over to Doug Larson, our Chief Monetary Officer, to supply an outline of our monetary outcomes for the fiscal quarter ended December 31, 2022. Doug?
Thanks, Steve, and good afternoon, everybody. Our monetary outcomes for the third quarter of fiscal yr 2023, which ended on December 31, 2022, are as follows. On a GAAP foundation, analysis and improvement bills for the fiscal quarter ended December 31, 2022, had been $5 million, in contrast with $2.5 million for the fiscal quarter ended December 31, 2021. This enhance was pushed primarily by compensation prices from scaling up operations in Past Most cancers, in addition to from elevated investments in preclinical work being finished throughout the group in our focused therapeutic areas.
Common and administrative bills for the fiscal quarter ended December 31, 2022, elevated to $8.9 million, in contrast with $4.9 million for the fiscal quarter ended December 31, 2021. $3 million of the rise was because of the deliberate structural investments in Past Most cancers, with the remaining $1 million attributed — attributable to continued investments in folks and programs essential to help the industrial launch of LungFit PH within the U.S.
Different earnings and expense for the fiscal quarter ended December 31, 2022, was a $0.2 million acquire, in contrast with a $0.5 million loss for the fiscal quarter ended December 31, 2021. The 2 essential drivers on this year-over-year enchancment had been the positive aspects we created from our investments in marketable securities, in addition to favorable international trade actions.
For the fiscal quarter ended December 31, 2022, the corporate had a GAAP web lack of $13.8 million, of which $12.7 million or $0.43 per share was attributable to the shareholders of Past Air, Inc. in contrast with a web lack of $7.7 million or $0.29 per share for the fiscal quarter ended December 31, 2021.
Internet money utilized by the corporate, together with Past Most cancers, was $9.3 million for the quarter ended December 31, 2022. By means of the primary 9 months of this fiscal yr, web money burn has been $27 million.
As of December 31, 2022, the corporate reported money and money equivalents, marketable securities and restricted money of $63.2 million. We nonetheless forecast that our common quarterly money burn for fiscal 2023 to be inside a variety of $8 million to $10 million per quarter.
And with that, I’ll hand the decision again to Steve.
Thanks, Doug. Hope everyone seems to be as happy as I’m with the execution and progress at Past Air. Operator, let’s go to Q&A.
[Operator Instructions] Our first query comes from Matt Kaplan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go forward.
Hello. Good afternoon and thanks for taking the query. Simply needed to comply with up on how the LungFit PH launch preliminary early launches going Section 1. I suppose, is there something that you simply discovered about, I suppose, the aggressive market within the hospital, which is new or sudden, which might probably assist to expedite the launch or would probably gradual it down by way of market penetration?
Thanks, Matt. And I’ll flip this over to Duncan to reply this query. However the one factor I’ll say earlier than that’s man the hospitals transfer very slowly. I feel COVID simply made issues a bit of bit harder to get issues by way of within the hospital house, a lot of new issues by way of getting new groups into the hospital to get work finished. However that’s simply from my hen’s eye view, however I’ll let Duncan touch upon this additional.
Yeah. Thanks for the query, Mat. No. We’re actually happy with the way in which it’s going. Basically, there’s no change to the plan. We’re executing as per our earlier conversations, our first six months to 9 months as much as a dozen hospitals and that’s all we now have been doing. We’ve got had actually glorious suggestions throughout that interval.
And as we now have stated earlier than, we now have been specializing in the logistics, the service. And from a scientific perspective, issues have gone as completely effectively as we might count on. We’re more than happy with the suggestions that we now have been getting. We’ve got skilled lots of of respiratory therapists in numerous totally different hospitals and now we’re within the contracting course of.
And as I discussed in my remarks, I’m very impressed with the entry we now have received contemplating the triple risk that we’re all acquainted with and now we undergo the contract course of with these varied hospitals and those that we are actually shifting ahead with within the early section of that broader growth.
And every hospital is totally different, there are totally different phases they usually have totally different processes and a few of these have turn out to be extra onerous, a few of them haven’t modified. So it relies upon from hospital-to-hospital. So nothing that we now have discovered that has shocked us and we’re happy with the progress.
Nice. After which, particularly, how ought to we take into consideration the Section 2 as you might be shifting into this accelerated gross sales within the spring?
Yeah. I feel that we stated that the primary six months to 9 months could be that type of Section 1. So we’re coming to the tip of that. So within the subsequent fiscal yr is after we begin to ramp up, and as I stated, it is dependent upon the combination of hospitals that we find yourself with from a contractual perspective, we are able to’t know for certain precisely when they’re all going to hit, partly for the explanations that Steve commented on and partly simply the luck of the draw by way of the place they’re of their contracting course of. So, sadly, we are able to’t management that to a big extent, as we get extra scale, we are going to clearly have extra confidence in that.
Nice. Okay. Thanks once more.
Our subsequent query comes from Greg Fraser with Truist Securities. Please go forward.
Good afternoon, people. Thanks for taking the questions. So the hospitals which have finished an eval and determined to not transfer ahead with contract discussions, have there been any widespread explanation why?
So, I imply, the preliminary — I feel the all comes right down to contracting. If they’re in a section the place we now have finished an analysis and they’re , for instance, twin supply. In some instances, they will do this. In some instances, it takes a bit of bit longer. In order that’s a part of the reason being round contracting.
And the opposite is likely to be to do with the size of the hospital by way of it is likely to be a part of a gaggle, and that group might need, in some instances, we now have finished work with a hospital that was acquired by a gaggle and that slows issues down. So sometimes it’s across the timing of the contracting course of. That’s the most typical. However we now have been selective and we’re nonetheless working with most of these hospitals.
And Greg, simply to follow-up on that. That is — I suppose you might be getting on the query of, is there one thing persistently mistaken that’s seen with our system that individuals are signing up with us. And I feel that’s means off base by way of what’s truly occurring. The method strikes slowly. You possibly can look again in any respect the convention name transcripts that we now have had up to now two years, and I’ve stated that it is a six-month to nine-month course of to get the ball shifting and we now have simply accomplished 6 months on the finish of December, together with July and August, launching in the summertime and this business is aware of is often a no-no. So these are tough months, clearly.
So we knew it was going to take a very long time to get the ball rolling and this isn’t simply fill the channel with some capsules and get going. It is a course of that takes time to training and so forth, and coaching with the hospitals.
So we haven’t seen something about our system that considerations us or considerations any of the hospitals which have seen our system and performed round with it. Are there little tweaks right here and there? In fact. These are issues which are regular to start with of a launch and we are going to in all probability be tweaking our system for the following 10 years, identical to our opponents have.
I imply, in case you take a look at the INOmax DSIR, go look when it was first accepted and what it regarded like then and what appears to be like like now and they’re nonetheless popping out with new variations of their system. So there’s all the time room for enchancment. However we now have seen nothing with our system that stops hospitals from utilizing our system. That has nothing to do with the place we’re at this second in time.
In truth, we’re just about proper the place we thought we might be at this second in time. Would I prefer it to go quicker. In fact, all people needs appears to go quicker, however the actuality is six months to 9 months is what we estimated and it’s going to take that point. It’s going to take the total 9 months for us to get the ball rolling in place that we wish to be. So I feel that’s what you might be getting at together with your query. But when it wasn’t, please comply with up.
Yeah. No. That’s what I used to be asking. That’s a really useful reply. Thanks. On the contracting discussions, I imagine your goal is to produce NO at a worth just like what the hospitals are already paying. Are hospitals receptive to that or some in search of reductions, any coloration there could be useful?
Yeah. Look, once more, it varies upon getting seen one hospital, you will have seen one hospital is type of the identical. We’ve got checked out varied enterprise fashions as we now have advanced and discovered. We’ve got adjusted to what totally different hospitals are in search of and it very a lot is dependent upon the circumstances, the scientific setting.
In some instances, we count on that the successful formulation goes to be consistent with the present expectation. In some instances, we is likely to be truly at a premium. It simply very a lot is dependent upon the advantages of eliminating cylinders in that hospital and the worth of the logistical trouble that we’re eradicating.
So, once more, I’m not supplying you with a blanket reply, as a result of it’s so various. However we haven’t — we definitely haven’t had any normal problem in that space, however we’re going to proceed to be very versatile and attentive to their wants.
Obtained it. That’s very useful. After which are you able to simply remark a bit extra in regards to the CE Mark course of and what contributed to the later timing fraction versus your prior expectation?
They modified issues within the EU a number of years in the past, the brand new MDR, I suppose, they name it, and that resulted in a big decline within the variety of notified our bodies in Europe, plus a number of the capability of those remaining notified our bodies was getting used up by corporations with merchandise that had been already in the marketplace. Quite a lot of these items, these merchandise had been topic to the brand new guidelines and will have been pulled off the market.
So there wasn’t a number of capability. We had been in. We had a time line with our notified physique. We communicated steering to you based mostly on that point line communicated to us. they simply couldn’t get it finished. They’re overworked, overwhelmed and these items occur.
We’re working with them. They’re doing job. We don’t see any purpose why we received’t be getting CE Mark, however we nonetheless need to work by way of the method with them. And issues are simply taking longer than anticipated. And we went by way of these items with them and received time traces and thought all of us might hit them. I ship them collectively, thought they might hit these time traces. It simply didn’t occur.
There appears to be delays with regulatory stuff within the U.S. and Europe. I feel the regulatory companies are recovering from what occurred throughout COVID and what occurred in Europe anyway from the change in rules. However some corporations are getting fortunate than others of their time traces.
But it surely’s actually been nothing of concern for us by way of we’re inadequate to get approval. That’s not the problem. The difficulty is simply working by way of it and making an attempt to satisfy the time line. So it’s unlucky, however it’s what it’s and we are going to simply get it in a few months. That’s all we are able to do.
Obtained it. Okay. I’ll ask another after which I’ll hop again within the queue. On the cardiac submitting. I feel you had a gathering with the FDA. Did something come up in that assembly that was sudden to probably be a hurdle to approval? Thanks a lot.
Yeah. Our assembly on the cardiac label growth was pushed again by FDA, so it was scheduling conflicts. In order that assembly has not but occurred, which is why we haven’t submitted the PMA complement. So I actually can’t remark. I’m sorry.
Okay. Okay. Thanks.
The subsequent query comes from Yale Jen with Laidlaw & Firm. Please go forward.
Good afternoon and thanks for taking the questions and congrats on all of the progress. When it comes to LungFit PH, you talked about that within the second section, you’re going to increase the gross sales power. Might you give us a bit of little bit of coloration how that tempo is likely to be and the way that measurement is likely to be? After which I’ve a follow-up.
Yeah. So, yeah, thanks. The tempo at which we increase the industrial workforce goes to be dictated by what we see coming within the subsequent six months to 12 months by way of anticipated contracts.
So, Duncan goes to be build up that workforce beginning very quickly and we’re going to be specializing in our scientific workforce construct up first. These are the blokes who educate, practice the hospital workers and that’s actually the hurdle to start with as you get rolling since it’s comparatively new for these hospitals. After which we are going to focus extra on the precise gross sales reps as soon as we now have gotten our scientific folks as much as the quantity that we want.
So this shall be ongoing. The growth of the workforce shall be ongoing in all probability for the following 18 months to 24 months. We don’t simply snap our fingers and convey all people in, proper? So they are going to are available in waves. In order that’s the Section 2 of our launch. Like I stated, largely get going within the subsequent few months and final in all probability 18 months to 24 months of us constructing that workforce. I hope that solutions the query, if it didn’t, please let me know.
That’s very useful. I recognize that. Perhaps another query within the FDA conferences for the LungFit PRO on VCAP. Any coloration of the that conferences you’ll be able to discuss?
Yeah. I imply we don’t like to speak about what we stated between us and the FDA. Our communications are personal with them. However once more…
… what I’ll say is that, we’re definitely captivated with getting this examine began up within the fourth quarter of this calendar yr. So we’re wanting ahead to it. That’s for certain.
Okay. Nice. And possibly simply speaking another, which is that, we observed that the LungFit PRO, the trials, each within the MTN in addition to in COPD has been pushed out fairly a bit in comparison with your earlier steering, together with your current slide deck, was there any strategic purpose you’ll take that transfer? Thanks.
So COPD just isn’t strategic. That’s simply once more FDA time traces have been pushed out. And we want time to set that examine up correctly, as a result of though it — you don’t see it as a seasonal examine, it truly is, as a result of we’re in search of exacerbations in these sufferers and seeing these exacerbations lead to hospitalization.
In order that’s going to be loads — there shall be a way more quantity within the winter months than in the summertime months. So we don’t wish to do that outdoors of a winter season and there’s no means we are able to get it finished within the upcoming winter based mostly on the time traces which were given to us by FDA. In order that’s simply the truth of the place we’re at present.
With respect to NTM, yeah, I feel, we stated, we had been capturing for late 2024 calendar. I feel we simply made our steering to again half of our fiscal yr. So it’s type of semantics, it isn’t actually a delay, however we are going to attempt to get this finished as rapidly as potential. I feel that possibly we’re being a bit of conservative as a result of FDA has type of overloaded with issues a bit of bit and we don’t wish to — we wish to give ourselves a bit of little bit of a cushion in case there’s some push on the market as effectively.
However issues run easily, possibly we are able to pull that again in a bit of bit, yeah, however we should see how that goes. That is extra of a — this isn’t only a protocol dialogue with FDA, nevertheless it’s additionally a dialogue of our last dwelling system that’s being constructed. We have to clearly get the machine accepted by them, in addition to the examine, whereas for pneumonia, it’s simply in regards to the examine, not in regards to the machine.
Okay. Nice. Very useful. Admire it, and once more, congrats on all of the progress.
Our subsequent query comes from Suraj Kalia with Oppenheimer & Firm. Please go forward.
Good afternoon, everybody. So two questions. Duncan, one for you and one for Steve. Let me begin out with you, Duncan. So, Duncan, you all have been constant by way of the section launch of PH. I used to be questioning if I might push you a bit of bit by way of quantifying the websites which have gone by way of evaluations and are actually within the contracting section. And particularly, while you see a website has completed analysis, what does the standard NICU which will or could not already be contracted with Alancarta [ph]. What would — have they finished from an analysis perspective into — to push it to the following stage?
Hey, Suraj. We aren’t going to touch upon these numbers, however Duncan can touch upon the opposite query.
Yeah. So from an analysis perspective, once more, it varies from hospital-to-hospital, relying on the protocol and the standard assurance course of they’ve in place. In some instances, the truth is, they do what they name a bench check. So the — that requires them to undergo a protocol with out truly connecting it to a affected person.
However in a typical analysis the place they do have scientific expertise, they are going to undergo that course of in a matter of someplace between per week and three to 4 weeks and it’s often lined up with a interval earlier than their contract is due. And once more, some hospitals start their contracting course of six months, 9 months, in some instances, 12 months forward based mostly on the protocol and the assorted stakeholders in a worth entry committee or one thing of that nature that they should undergo.
So, sadly, there’s nobody measurement matches all once more. However from our perspective, it’s a reasonably easy course of, as a result of our system is so quick and easy. They only have to make use of our system as an alternative of the system which are at the moment utilizing as per their protocol. I hope I’ve answered your query.
Honest sufficient, Duncan. Steve, one query for you, and I do know you guys at this stage are considerably various to giving specifics on numbers. However choosing up with the commentary by way of a number of the issues getting delayed, the method is taking longer. Perhaps if I might simply place it this manner, Steve. Fiscal fourth quarter numbers are about $3 million in revs. Fiscal 2024, if I’m it appropriately, it’s nearly $40 million. So possibly you’ll be able to assist thread the needle right here by way of what you might be seeing by way of the section launch and the way would you information us based mostly on what the consensus numbers are on the market? Gents, thanks for taking my questions.
Thanks, Suraj. And let’s be clear, these numbers are from you and the opposite analysts that’s consensus. We’ve got given no steering in anyway, in order that’s simply your interpretation and we aren’t going to be giving steering at this level.
I feel I’ve been very clear about that and we’re going to wait and see how issues play out and get extra — collect extra data earlier than doing that and that may in all probability occur after we announce our fiscal yr, which clearly ends March thirty first. So you’ll be able to stay up for us discussing in additional element what sort of steering we might be giving at the moment. I feel it’s nonetheless a bit of bit too early to debate these issues.
Presently, we’re displaying no additional questions within the queue and this concludes our question-and-answer session. I might now like to show the convention over to Steve Lisi for any closing remarks.
Thanks. Thank everybody for becoming a member of us at present. Very a lot recognize the curiosity. Sit up for chatting with you very shortly in a few upcoming business conferences. Thanks very a lot.
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